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> What instantly ticks you off in a manga?
tobifreed
Posted: 2009-06-20, 12:30 PM


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When there is more fan service, then an actual story line.


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Posted: 2009-06-29, 12:08 AM


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1. Fanservice
2. Weak/wimpy throughout whole series characters like Makoto from School Days
3. Whiney characters, Da Capo characters
4. Repetitive introducing of characters every chapter. *cough cough* Special A *cough*
5. Loads of writing each page
6. Guys drawn like girls. E.g The Wallflower -___-"
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Posted: 2009-06-29, 08:53 AM


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zephyrjyou pretty much covered all mine right there.


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Posted: 2009-06-30, 06:54 AM


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Quoted(ref) zephyrjyou (on 29 June, 2009, 01:08 AM PDT)

5. Loads of writing each page

This kills me right here. Considering the medium, manga (graphic novels in general) have many methods of telling a story. However the mangaka (and the writer) have to keep in mind that they can convey a point via dialogue AND artwork. It's not really a choice between the two, you have both available in usage and should, for the most part, use them in concert. Instead we get tons of mangaka who were better off just writing books--the artwork gets so cluttered with masses of writing that you can't even appreciate the pictures. Unless of course you have some odd attraction towards word bubbles of varying size.

Which then brings the question to mind, why even make a manga if you just wanted to write a book? Understanding the differences in mediums is essential for producing something people can read without being overwhelmed. It should be a rather basic concept, but I've seen manga continue on for ages that have massive amounts of dialogue or monologue slathered all over the page. Then again, using the bare minimum isn't any better either.

I forgot where I was going with this.

Quoted(ref) zephyrjyou (on 29 June, 2009, 01:08 AM PDT)

6. Guys drawn like girls. E.g The Wallflower -___-"

This. Consistent in Shoujo and Josei manga, although I can handle it in the latter for the most part. I don't even get it. But I also don't get the giant breasted monsters that mangaka seem to like drawing in Shonen either.


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Posted: 2009-07-01, 01:58 PM


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Quoted(ref) tobifreed (on 20 June, 2009, 01:30 PM PDT)

When there is more fan service, then an actual story line.

It simply degrades into softcore porn... IMO

-The main heroine is always weak. Even if her bio says that she is 'powerful', she still ends up relying upon the main hero or something along those lines. That annoys me to no end, the strong should stay strong right?

-Harem without a good plot and too much fanservice. Some plots are just pretty lame and don't make sense.

-Disproportionate characters. Theres a limit on how big the u can make a girl's breasts or how much of a character's face is taken up by their eyes. Same goes for their head size, hair length and so on.



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Posted: 2009-07-02, 03:42 PM


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1. Fanservice.
2. Characters who talk big but have nothing to back it up and consistently pop up to be obnoxious.
3. Battles where it is impossible to tell what is going on.
4. Plots that are impossible to understand even when you start at the beginning.

I like a lot of manga, as long as they don't contain the four things mentioned above.


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Posted: 2009-07-02, 10:51 PM


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Has anyone ever read a series where the panels are just too cluttered (either with images or dialogue or w/e) to tell what is actually going on?


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Posted: 2009-07-03, 06:16 AM


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Quoted(ref) Dark_Raven008912 (on 2 July, 2009, 11:51 PM PDT)

Has anyone ever read a series where the panels are just too cluttered (either with images or dialogue or w/e) to tell what is actually going on?

Yes! I hate that. When that happens, usually I put the book down and forget about it. It's annoying.


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Posted: 2009-07-05, 05:12 PM


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-Predictability (Is that a word? I suppose it doesn't matter)
-Artwork Style
-Love triangles, dodecahedrons, infinity-gons, w/e. These are used much too often, often distract from the storyline, and are simply annoying.
-Related to the one above, whiny, possesive women. Less common but equally annoying are whiny men.
-When it seems at least every other character has some sort of personal crisis.
-Clueless characters.
-Repetitive save the world scenarios.

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Posted: 2009-07-06, 12:45 PM


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-When a scientist or some expert tries to explain his invention or ship which takes up the page of talks most reader won't understand.

-Inconsistency in the chapter, I get ticked when they skip a week or two, you tend to forget about what happened last chapter

-When they extend the scene of romance a couple of pages and draw the fighting scene only a page or sometimes on half a page.

_When the main character looked like a female character, or has a wimpy personality the whole series except for a couple of times he tries to act cool.


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Posted: 2009-07-09, 08:55 PM


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when the lead male character looks the same as 90% of all anime/mangas

and when a release takes a month... come on Norihiro Yagi (claymore) ur killing meeeeeee


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Posted: 2009-07-15, 01:09 AM




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1. Heroes... I hate mangas with heroes in! Especially if the hero is ridiculously... Predictable... Like Naruto, he gets in a fight... Gets his arse kicked... The fox-thingy saves him... He gets dissed...

2. Daemons... Or whatever supernatural shizz...

3. When everyone is a stupid hippie or something and everything is happy... 24/7

4. When a manga tries to include evil but fails... Need I say more?

5. Robots... Battle angel Alita is an exception...

6. When it takes place in the future... Alternate worlds are fine(Battle angel Alita)

7. Name a shonen. wink.gif

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Posted: 2009-09-10, 08:50 PM


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Things I hate in a anime/movie are:

The useless pretty girl type who never toughens up and is still loved and special to everyone despite her uselessness.

Too much fanservice (okay we get it the girl's sexy move on!)

I think bad art and a bad story line is obvious. Won't even read a book with bad art.

When certain things in the stroy become repetitiive

Bad guys who think they're the baddest thing on earth but in reality they are underdeveloped and they suck

When ALL the characters are cliche. I don't mind they look cliche on the surface but at least add depth to them as the stroy moves along! nono.gif

Really Girly boys that still seem to get all the girls to love them. huh.gif

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Posted: 2009-10-01, 02:26 PM


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I hate when a tournament starts in a manga. That usually means that the writers are running out of ideas and they have to put a tournament in the middle of the storyline, one of the cheapest things a writer can do.

Also when certain story elements like new characters are introduced randomly causing everything to change, it just messes everything up, certain things don't go the way you envisioned or they just become annoying.

Also, when the mangas you buy start coming out with less chapters in them...there already small enough as they are...i want my moneys worth XD.
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Posted: 2009-10-05, 06:10 AM


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-when there's waaaaay more text than art.
or vice versa. (there should be a somewhat even
distribution.)
-that one unrealistically perfect character that
turns out to be a jerk (most manga have this
kind of character though: Kare Kano for example).


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Posted: 2009-10-30, 12:44 AM


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-Over obliviousness. It's ok to be oblivious but come on, there are some things that are just given.
-Yelling the attack (Not really the attack, but how people still act surprised it was coming.)
-Constant explanations that take 4 mins to read but somehow was delivered in a split second while intercepting an attack. E.g:

hero attacks really fast

evil dude "haha you fell into my trap! [insert long explanation of how your trap works and maybe a flashback on how it was set up]"

Basically it's Lex's long speech of world domination but delivered in a fraction of a second.

-When the story goes off track for no reason and for a while. I mean those special chapters that come back to the beginning and give another perspective on how whatever happened, started.

-And I hate it when girl in mangas can't make up their mind. Girls in real life do it well, so why the he'll should a fictional character have so much trouble picking something. And I mean for everything, from love to which way to go or what to do in a situation.


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You know, falling down from a window only to see MLN beat off Zander isn't what I expected...
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Posted: 2009-10-30, 06:37 PM


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Hmmm...

-Ecchi manga. Negima and Love Hina are pretty much the worst ecchi manga ever. Air Gear I can like however, because of the characters and steller artwork. Same with Soul Eater. (Although, it's less ecchi lately.)

-When a manga-ka has too many assisents. (I'm looking at you Kaori Yuki. Really, the artwork isn't THAT great when you have that many assisents.)

-Long battles that take forever. (Blag. Naruto and Bleach. >.>)

-Bad artwork. (Naruto, again. I can't even TELL who's who in the manga.)

I'll think of more later.


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Posted: 2009-10-31, 04:51 AM


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1. Unbelievable fanservice. I can understand a reasonably explained panty-shot. But when every breeze of wind shows the girls panties, or normal walking makes her breast bounce sky-high, its just plain stupid.

2. Shifting artwork. The characters will appear one way in one panel, and in the next look completely different.

3. Shifting moods. I can be reading a happy occassion, then one character is depressed for a moment, and in the next instant its suddenly party-time. Huh? This happens more in anime than manga, though. But still... its irritating and confusing.

4. Cliffhangers. Okay, not a resonable tick, but they are annoying. Especially in the mangas Bleach and Naruto.

I can't think of anymore, but I'm sure there are some. But like everything, manga has its ups and downs. smile.gif
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Posted: 2009-11-09, 01:31 PM


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I detest whole chapters of nothing but discussion in the middle of epic battles. E.G. Uliquiorra's release and every character talks about how immense his strength is but doesn't do anything impressive till the following chapter. The other thing I truly detest is when mangas take forever to get to a brilliant cliffhanger/turn of events and then it ends within the first few pages of the following chapter. Very anticlimactic and ruins the epic feel.


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Posted: 2009-11-09, 01:56 PM
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False Realism: Instead of imagining a situation or power that is creative, the mangaka bullcraps his way using limited knowledge of the world around him (or wikipedia) and completely gets things wrong. A large example of this is the martial arts in Historys Strongest Disciple Kenichi. Total BS.

Deux Ex Machina: For those of you who don't know what this means, it basically translates to "because I said so". Not really, but you'll understand in a moment. These refer to the moments that someone turns the tide of a battle or situation with no apparent reason behind it and no explanation. An example of this is
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Ichigo's transformation into his "hollow" form in the fight with Uliquiorra
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Longevity: Many of you have experienced the moment of "this should have ended by now". Writing just to keep it going because it's popular is not a good reason to continue anything. It forces you to come up with new content that you more than likely didn't even imagine in the first place. The best example is Dragonball GT (Anime) as it had nothing to do with Akira Toriyama. (I know it's not manga, but still a good example.)

Resurrection: Death in manga has boiled down to nothing but shock value. A mangaka nowadays will kill off a character in the heat of the moment, only to bring them back from the dead in the next chapter. It gets really irritating when you believe someone is gone for good, only to get trolled. I don't really have to provide an example of this, since it's in almost every action manga you read and I'm sick of it.

I'll more than likely add to this eventually. Those are just on the tip of my brain.


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