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Posted: 2005-05-25, 05:59 PM


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Since the debate forum has been infiltrated by some people who seemingly are new to the debate scene, I've decided to post some tips to debating.
  • Use good spelling and grammar. One of the last things you want to do is make yourself look stupid and seemingly illiterate.
  • Do not use all caps to express your points. It doesn't help.
  • Don't flame or push personal insults because of another's position.
  • Provide clear facts to support what you say. You don't want to trap your argument because your argument's foundation is weak.
  • If it's an opinion, then post it as an opinion. If it's not fact or has no evidence, then it's not fact. Clearly show that it is a theory/opinion. A theory/opinion has no evidence or the lack of definite evidence.
  • Understand that you may not be right. Don't be so stubborn and arrogant or pushy about your own views. Other people have their own opinions - respect them. (thanks to Chester Shang)
Reply to add any more tips.


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Posted: 2005-07-17, 07:22 AM


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I made this thing once. It was less than successful.


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Posted: 2005-07-23, 07:55 PM


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Something I derived that I'm trying to follow...considering I thought of most of it with the help of a friend:

To give a person one's opinion and correct his faults is an important thing. However, you must judge well whether that person is of the disposition to receive it or not. Praise his good points instead of ignoring them. Use every device to encourage him, and perhaps point out your own faults without touching on his, but so that they will occur to him.

Also, it is not good to settle into a set of opinions. It is a mistake to put forth effort and obtain some understanding and then stop at that. Do not rely on following the degree of understanding that you have discovered, but rather think, "This is not enough." Far too often have I encountered utter ignorance to research properly.

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don't resort to using pathetic links and photos that you puill out of your arse unless relevant to the friggin' topic, you look arrogant, histirionic and idiotic.


Despite how pathetically you came about this one (again), you say the truth despite the pure unneccessity of the tone of the statement. You deserved quite a few photos from me, and as I recall, none of them were "arrogant", but a result of flaming. Understand what you're talking about before you flip. I mean, you don't make yourself look much more smart with that post there, my friend. Hypocrisy is a nice thing, especially when people ALMOST miss it.


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Posted: 2005-08-03, 04:08 PM


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The basic outline to an argument goes as follows:
PREMISE #1
PREMISE #2
CONCLUSION

In order for your conclusion to be reasonable (I'm not using this word loosely), both premises must be correct. If a premise is correct, then its logic is infallible.

To invalidate a conclusion, one must challenge either premise, or one must challenge the structure of the argument.

For example, consider a faulty structured argument that is obvious to challenge:

White is RGB 255, 255, 255.
BOATS ARE COOL
Black is not white

Premise 2 contributes to the faultiness of the argument. One could certainly challenge whether BOATS ARE COOL or not, but it would be irrelevant in this case as it does not lead up to the conclusion. Instead, one challenges premise 2 as a faulty element of the structure of the argument.

Hope this helps/makes sense.


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Posted: 2006-11-03, 03:30 PM


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Some topics are sensitive. They need to be treated differently in some ways but the same in others.
Sensitive topics can be things like, Rape and the existence of God. Some will find any position other than their own offensive. Please remember that you are posting on KAF and you should not take it personal if others feel differently to your own opinion.

Also as a topic may be deemed sensitive, you must take extra care not to inflame others. Some take the existence of god very seriously while others may think it as a big sham. What ever youre position, remember others have views and in some topics they can easily affect people emotionally more than an average topic.

I think it is wrong though to not explore sensitive topics. If someone has a view that may be away from the norm [and possibly to the point its a taboo], then they should not be automatically ignored or attacked personally but proven wrong the conventional debate way [if indeed they are wrong].

At one point giving women the vote was sensitive and taboo many things in history has changed for the better when challenging taboos of their day.


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